1In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2Now the earth wasa formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
3And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
6And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water.” 7So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8God called the expanse “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.
9And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. 10God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.
11Then God said, “Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds.” And it was so. 12The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.
14And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth.” And it was so. 16God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, 18to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.
20And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky.” 21So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
24And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 26Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth,b and over all the creatures that move along the ground.” 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. 28God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”
29Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.
31God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.
great work. I am assembeling a graphic Nove - creation throught the Flood. take a look at my site. www.sparklightplanet.com some of my art for it is on there, contact me if you want to participate. I would love to feature your art in this project.
I'm just a curious atheist, no hate, no judging, just anthropological interest, but do you believe God created earth? And how do you respond to findings stating the earth must be older than 10,000 years?
Please, I am not trying to make you angry, or being an ass, I'm just really interested because I have so few religious people in my surroundings and asking these questions always makes people so irritated. I hope you're not!
No emotions here! I think it's always wise to ask questions and get others' points of view.
You asked, "do you believe God created earth?"
Yes. But why, you may ask? Well, for several reasons, but primarily because Jesus did (believed God created the earth) and He taught as such. And I trust Him because He rose from the dead, proving who He claimed to be–the Son of God. And why do I believe He rose from the dead? There is strong evidence to support the Bible's claim that He rose from the dead (which if you are ever interested I could go over some time). So it's very reasonable to me.
Also, even if Jesus didn't teach it, it can be logically reasoned out that God created the universe. Anything that comes to be or has a beginning is an effect and must have a cause equal to or greater than said effect. The universe had a beginning (consider Einstein and the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics) and so is an effect of some first cause. That first cause must be at least equal to or greater than the universe itself. And it couldn't have been a natural cause that caused the universe to be. Why? Because the natural laws (all Laws of Physics and Quantum Mechanics) rely on the universe existing. They could not have preceded the universe since they are a part of it. So if there were no natural laws present to cause the universe to be, then the cause of the universe must have been something other than a natural cause, it must be super-natural.
Time as well is a part of this universe, and so came to be when the universe came to be. So prior to the universe there was a timeless state. So the cause that preceded the universe could only be a cause since only effects have a beginning. So the super-natural cause of the universe is only a cause, because it could not have a beginning itself and so is not an effect, it is the uncaused-cause. I would call the uncaused (never had a beginning, infinite)-first-cause of the universe (making it creative and all powerful) God.
Then you asked, "And how do you respond to findings stating the earth must be older than 10,000 years?"
Well, that depends on what findings you might be referring to. There are other findings as well that suggest the earth is around 10,000 years old. I would probably need more specifics to be able to answer more adequately.
But again, I defer to Jesus on the matter. When He taught about creation He mentioned several events tied to humanity that He placed at the creation of the earth, which would suggest an earth that is only thousands of years old.
Again, there is a lot more that could be considered, but with the time given that's all I could throw out and probably as much as you may want to read for now. Thanks again though for the questions!
Wow that's really interesting, thanks for your lengthy answer !
You say 'So if there were no natural laws present to cause the universe to be, then the cause of the universe must have been something other than a natural cause, it must be super-natural.' Which is interesting, because I actually sort of agree, only I think we atheists call it differently.
I believe that before the creation of the universe, there must have been a sort of science existing, with the creation of the universe as a consequence. Only because science would probably have been a lot different (indeed, because of the different dimensions such as time), a way to take this sort of science would be to call it supernatural (because it exceeds our natural surroundings we have now).
So we agree that there must be something "supernatural", only you chose to believe this to be God, and I have not chosen that path.
It's good to know people differ less than you think at first sight Thanks for your insights!
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